>“I think he started retired… but he’s always pulled out of retirement, you know. I think he’s a family man; you always know where his allegiance lies, and he’s always come out of retirement, man. Until he’s killed, he’s always gonna be working.”
AnySpirit6482025-10-22 20:40
Avengers gonna lose to Doom if hawkeye isn't present
Notoriously_So2025-10-22 20:44
PayneTrain1819992025-10-23 00:35
He loves firing those explosive arrows without looking, doesn’t he?
CrazedDragon642025-10-23 04:36
Probably does that to protect the world’s best working set of eyes tbh
PayneTrain1819992025-10-22 20:54
My question is, does it matter *which* Hawkeye?
Or is Kate going to start her own streak of her teams winning and losing battles without her?
AdditionalBanana95852025-10-22 21:19
Well, she was the first to die in Zombies, so..
cAmSg0tGaMz2025-10-22 21:41
We could always chalk that up to it being an alternative universe, after all, the Hawkeye of that universe was a zombie too
OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-22 21:50
And he didn’t even talk. SMH
darkreapertv2025-10-22 22:14
But hawkeye was on team zombies (spoiler alert) who won.
cAmSg0tGaMz2025-10-23 00:21
Ah, good point, but he had to lose on team humans first
PayneTrain1819992025-10-22 22:21
I’m still not over that, was so excited to see more Kate and she gets vaporized before she even got to see Yelena.
Caracallademise2025-10-22 22:22
Exactly 😭😭 took a break from the MCU for 4 years, came back found only Kate only appeared in 2 more things since Hawkeye. One was a post credit scene and the other she got vaporized in like 10 minutes.
Practical-Debate15982025-10-22 21:43
Lol yea
ubutterscotchpine2025-10-22 21:13
Which is why Marvel needs to actually do something with Kate Bishop lol
belladonnagilkey2025-10-22 21:24
If they could get Hailee Steinfeld to come into the studio for more than five minutes, which they don't seem to be willing to do at the moment for some reason.
ubutterscotchpine2025-10-22 21:49
It’s funny because her part in Zombies was very likely recorded from her home during quarantine too lol. Not sure what Marvel is thinking. Hailee has stated in an interview recently that she’s always waiting by the phone for them to call.
PayneTrain1819992025-10-23 00:36
She’s definitely going to be in either Doomsday or Secret Wars, and a Champions project if they ever do that.
ubutterscotchpine2025-10-23 01:03
I think Champions has long since sailed honestly. Their best bet is to just put Kamala and Kate on whatever Avengers team comes out of Doomsday.
PayneTrain1819992025-10-23 01:15
I agree, keep those two and let the others wait, don’t want to risk overstuffing the movie.
Soranos_712025-10-22 22:48
MCU went through it's phase of any character in a comic book was possible for live action. Then somehow this idea of using cameos to keep these characters in the public eye was not possible for some reason.
Belteshazzar982025-10-22 21:19
But we may get to see whether the pattern is Hawkeye, or Clint.
_Levitated_Shield_2025-10-22 21:29
[Clint at Doom:](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fst27pmj8l1n51.jpg)
Lord_Phoenix952025-10-23 01:32
Hawkeye has been on every winning team so far. If Hawkeye isn't present then the team auto loses.
HNutz2025-10-24 21:52
Math checks out.
Kwilly4622025-10-22 20:40
I just don't see any reason for him to come back. Where else can his story go? Kate Bishop shouldn't even need a mentor at this point.
ubutterscotchpine2025-10-22 21:15
I agree with this. Kate Bishop needs a family, which she found with Clint, but for good lord Marvel, throw her into the fold already.
AwarenessOk77482025-10-22 20:42
Honestly, I personally don't agree with him. Like, why repeat the same Clint trope that he's finally starting to focus on his family, only to get involved in more trouble? After all, there's Kate Bishop carrying on Clint's legacy. I would have given Clint a peaceful family life.
ubutterscotchpine2025-10-22 21:17
Likewise, I’d love to see more about Laura, she seems like she was a baddie once upon a time. A Hawkeye Season 2 with some scenes of Clint training with Kate and family scenes would be cool if it took place between Season 1 and Kamala showing up after The Marvels, but we’re way past that opportunity now. Marvel needs to do something with Kate and Kamala before they’re living in a retirement community too.
RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-22 23:56
Secret Wars is probably where we see then next in any real capacity based on the concept art leak.
SailorET2025-10-23 13:43
In his defense, the first time he tried retiring *under a court order* his entire family turned to dust.
After that experience I think I'd stay at least partially active for the rest of my life.
Dadpurple2025-10-22 20:43
Alright everyone lets get this over with.
>Until he's killed
Now on face value, you might say that this is him being careful and in Secret Wars he's going to die. His way of letting us know.
But if we look closer I think there's a coded message in it.
If you take the first letters of each word he said you end up with
Now this looks like garbage and it might be, but if you re-arrange the letters, remove some and add in some missing ones you get
HAWKEYE DIES IN DOOMSDAY.
Now even that might be a bit of a stretch but here in this 11 minute youtube video we're going to go over everything as if it's fact and show my reaction to the news of hawkeyes CONFIRMED death in doomsday.
16tdean2025-10-22 20:48
You've got a career in this.
mattym92872025-10-22 20:49
I changed different letters and got
HAWKEYE AND MOCKINGBIRD SERIES.
Niel152025-10-22 20:59
The Mockingbird from Agents of SHIELD or Laura Barton?!
Smash that subscribe button and hit like if you want me to make a video of this!
DUNG_INSPECTOR2025-10-22 21:19
> The Mockingbird from Agents of SHIELD or Laura Barton?!
Both. Hawkeye goes hard.
willstr12025-10-22 22:58
Flashback Laura to Bobbi: I am here to talk to you about the Mockingbird initiative
Ironmunger22025-10-22 22:01
No, silly. Mockingbird is the star of The Hunger Games movie series. There will definitely be a collab in the next movie
CactusCustard2025-10-22 21:09
I did mine and all I got was “Drink your olvaltine”?!
What the fuck? Why would Jeremy do this?
PoniesCanterOver2025-10-23 19:16
Dude really fuckin loves Ovaltine
LemoLuke2025-10-22 22:57
Wait! Wait! Wait! I rearranged the letter and got:
Tesseract
*Hawkeye*
Aether
Necklace
Orb
Sceptre
It was staring us in the face the whole time!
Infinity Gauntlet 2: Electric Boogaloo
NeatWhiskeyPlease2025-10-22 20:50
lavabread232025-10-22 21:55
oh hey, it’s erik voss!
Dezbats2025-10-22 22:07
>Now on face value, you might say that this is him being careful and in Secret Wars he's going to die. His way of letting us know.
You had me at the beginning there.
I was rolling my eyes.
Usual-Caregiver55892025-10-22 20:45
I mean, we've seen him as a zombie. I dont buy the "until hes killed" statement.
belladonnagilkey2025-10-22 21:28
Well he wasn't technically playing that character, they just used his likeness.
I think Renner will play Hawkeye as long as he thinks there's a good story and a proper place for him to fit into the overarching arc. Or maybe he just likes running around doing stunts and being the human version of Legolas.
Usual-Caregiver55892025-10-22 22:00
>they just used his likeness.
Rude
OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-22 21:53
Sure but that wasn’t even Jeremy Renner
Ok-Recommendation9252025-10-27 10:32
What's troubling is that every team he's on, that team wins.
Heck the zombies ended up winning in Season 1 of Marvel Zombies
Any-Transition952025-10-22 20:47
Let the man retire in peace. Not every avenger has to die sacrificing their lives to save the world.
__wasitacatisaw__2025-10-22 20:55
Right, but it wouldn’t characteristic to Hawkeye for him to ignore a world ending crisis
DUNG_INSPECTOR2025-10-22 21:20
Yeah, what does retirement even mean for someone like Hawkeye?
Oh, aliens are invading? Too bad I'm retired.
belladonnagilkey2025-10-22 21:27
Retirement probably means he's not getting involved with anything short of another universe-ending crisis. I mean, he did lose the entire team during the last one. Tony and Nat are dead, Steve is on the moon, Bruce is somewhere, and Thor's back in space again. The emotional exhaustion has gotta be real.
DUNG_INSPECTOR2025-10-22 21:40
> Retirement probably means he's not getting involved with anything short of another universe-ending crisis.
You really think someone with his skillset would ignore an Earth-threatening crisis?
OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-22 21:52
Steve is in the moon?? What are you talking about
pokepat4602025-10-24 04:18
At some point, yeah. What is he going to be fighting the skrulls at age 80? Athletes retire early and they just fight humans over a sport. Hawkeye has no special powers and fights aliens. At some point, you gotta throw in the towel and let someone else do it
DUNG_INSPECTOR2025-10-24 04:59
Sure, but he could still help, even if he's not capable of directly fighting anymore. Nick Fury never did a lot of fighting in the MCU, but he was still integral time and time again.
Ironmunger22025-10-22 22:05
Half these movies consist of world ending crises. The only way it makes any sense for the movies to not also contain 15 other superheroes is to handwave it away by saying “they were out of town.” Otherwise you’re left asking why the Eternals weren’t involved in Age of Ultron, or why Hawkeye didn’t help in Doctor Strange, or why Hawkeye didn’t help in No Way Home, or why Captain America didn’t help in Iron Man 3, etc.
__wasitacatisaw__2025-10-23 00:31
Easy explanation for why the x heroes weren’t at x crisis is often because the conflict started and ended before they can make their way
Ironmunger22025-10-23 02:12
Yeah except for the ones who can teleport and fly and whatnot
WilliamEmmerson2025-11-04 01:28
That's why I think Clint didn't show up in Infinity War. From the time, Banner crashed into the Sanctum Santorum to Thanos doing the snap maybe a day and half had gone by.
Yeah, he was on house arrest but he would've broken that.
PayneTrain1819992025-10-22 20:55
But he retired for like 5 minutes and it all went to shit.
Repulsive-Fuel-52812025-10-22 21:11
Played 18, shot 18... Just couldn't seem to miss....
_Levitated_Shield_2025-10-22 21:27
"First time for everything."
"Made you look."
PayneTrain1819992025-10-22 22:20
“Multiple contusions detected.”
“Yeah, I detected that too.”
lk792025-10-22 21:42
I want to know how he can get a hole in one on a par 5 hole. That’s what? 450-500 yards? Maybe more? Is he getting the luckiest of ricochets on every hole?
Repulsive-Fuel-52812025-10-22 21:51
This has always been THE major plot hole of the movie... To quote The Dude: "...clearly, you're not a golfer..." I say to the writers of this movie. Renner ain't out there bombing 500yd shots...
arobkinca2025-10-22 22:15
Competition players hit 500 yard drives occasionally. His character is a superhero with perfect form and accuracy. His arrow shots aren't possible by normals either. He never misses.
Repulsive-Fuel-52812025-10-23 01:58
I know we're way out in the weeds now, but there is not one player on the PGA Tour who hits it 500. 400 is a stretch but has been done, wind assisted.
arobkinca2025-10-23 10:07
https://www.thegolf.blog/longest-drives/
The point being that what humans do rarely a superhuman can do regularly. These guys get lucky, Hawkeye points and shoots, hole in one. It's not meant to be looked at with a microscope. He can do it because he is a superhero.
OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-22 21:51
He played a par 3 course.
lk792025-10-22 22:04
ubutterscotchpine2025-10-22 21:14
Yeah and now there’s a Hawkeye to take his place. The world can’t exist without a Hawkeye and now it has a replacement, he’s good to retire now.
RubiconPizzaDelivery2025-10-22 21:28
Only Ant-Man has to die, the rest can retire
Any-Transition952025-10-22 22:23
Thor can be the exception. He doesn't have to die or retire, he should stick around for as long as he can, it's fitting for a god.
_Football_Cream_2025-10-22 21:29
They could move Clint into a Nick Fury-type role, more of the overseer or 'guy in the chair' for the Avengers (or Young Avengers?) moving forward. Let Kate Bishop full on take the Hawkeye mantle in the field while Clint is more behind the scenes.
WilliamEmmerson2025-11-04 01:29
They should have Clint form the West Coast Avengers or lead the Young Avengers.
Practical-Debate15982025-10-22 21:44
I hope he doesn't
moneymoneymoneymonay2025-10-22 20:49
He can only be killed if he dies
__wasitacatisaw__2025-10-22 20:57
*That’s what killing you means*
Zentrii2025-10-22 20:50
It feels like he’s talking about himself more than the character. He refused to be killed off in an MI movie (he was filming a marvel movie and couldn’t be in it) because he wanted the chance to come back in the future instead.
Good_old_Marshmallow2025-10-22 20:55
Personally, given the way he was the leader of the west coast avengers and how he was kinda the glue for the avengers in AoU I would really dig him as a Nick Fury guy in the chair sorta type for the Young Avengers. Looking after them and interfacing with the big government faces on screens types on their behalf.
Repulsive-Fuel-52812025-10-22 21:13
Guy in the chair already spoken for, bruh.....
OnlinePosterPerson2025-10-22 21:54
What would a regular guy who doesn’t know any superheroes have to do with a team of them?
vanillasky6872025-10-22 21:28
The avengers need him
MVPizzle_Redux2025-10-22 22:00
He’s def dying in doomsday / secret wars :(
But honestly him getting crushed by a vehicle / ship as a nod to his real life injuries would be kind of funny
sable-king2025-10-22 22:01
Look I love Renner as Clint, but what was the point of him passing the Hawkeye name on to Kate if he’s not gonna retire?
JoeZy272025-10-22 22:42
I think the point was for him to have a partner again. They are both Hawkeye. They go to have adventures together. They won’t stop fighting until they die. At least that was the plan until season 2 was canceled.
clashrendar2025-10-22 22:01
Kevin Feige should be greenlighting Hawkeye Season 2 *immediately*. And don't skimp on the funding. Bring the entire team back. The first season was phenomenal.
Creative_Toe_5442025-10-23 10:33
pay that man what he deserves he literally almost died im so annoyed
Reasonable-Turn-59402025-10-22 23:11
"Until you're 90"
spectralconfetti2025-10-23 00:02
I don't think this means anything except Renner's always up for more work from Marvel/Disney
impshial2025-10-23 00:12
Ninety years
RoyalCod32025-10-23 00:30
I hope that MCU is not into taking death as a way out of MCU for every character who is going to stop showing up in MCU.
It's really irritating and not interesting to be done continuously throughout the MCU.
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>“I think he started retired… but he’s always pulled out of retirement, you know. I think he’s a family man; you always know where his allegiance lies, and he’s always come out of retirement, man. Until he’s killed, he’s always gonna be working.”
Or is Kate going to start her own streak of her teams winning and losing battles without her?
After that experience I think I'd stay at least partially active for the rest of my life.
>Until he's killed
Now on face value, you might say that this is him being careful and in Secret Wars he's going to die. His way of letting us know.
But if we look closer I think there's a coded message in it.
If you take the first letters of each word he said you end up with
>ITHSR BHAPOOR,YK. ITHAFM;UAKWHAL,AHACOFR,M. UHK,HAGBW.
Now this looks like garbage and it might be, but if you re-arrange the letters, remove some and add in some missing ones you get
HAWKEYE DIES IN DOOMSDAY.
Now even that might be a bit of a stretch but here in this 11 minute youtube video we're going to go over everything as if it's fact and show my reaction to the news of hawkeyes CONFIRMED death in doomsday.
HAWKEYE AND MOCKINGBIRD SERIES.
Smash that subscribe button and hit like if you want me to make a video of this!
Both. Hawkeye goes hard.
What the fuck? Why would Jeremy do this?
Tesseract
*Hawkeye*
Aether
Necklace
Orb
Sceptre
It was staring us in the face the whole time!
Infinity Gauntlet 2: Electric Boogaloo
You had me at the beginning there.
I was rolling my eyes.
I think Renner will play Hawkeye as long as he thinks there's a good story and a proper place for him to fit into the overarching arc. Or maybe he just likes running around doing stunts and being the human version of Legolas.
Rude
Heck the zombies ended up winning in Season 1 of Marvel Zombies
Oh, aliens are invading? Too bad I'm retired.
You really think someone with his skillset would ignore an Earth-threatening crisis?
Yeah, he was on house arrest but he would've broken that.
"Made you look."
“Yeah, I detected that too.”
The point being that what humans do rarely a superhuman can do regularly. These guys get lucky, Hawkeye points and shoots, hole in one. It's not meant to be looked at with a microscope. He can do it because he is a superhero.
But honestly him getting crushed by a vehicle / ship as a nod to his real life injuries would be kind of funny
It's really irritating and not interesting to be done continuously throughout the MCU.